Over on the villain's wiki, i'm making a navigation template for Dexter villains and since you're clearly a big fan and the closest thing to an expert on the show that I know, could you take a look at what I have so far and tell me what you'd do and what you wouldn't do? I'm trying to make this look really good.
If you are asking me to help design a template, you clearly think I know more than I do. :) Yes, I know a lot about the show only because I've watched it more times than I can count. In 2017, I joined this wiki, not knowing how to do a simple edit. Luckily, I had help with my mistakes and began to learn, and I'm still learning. I do want to know more about templates at some point. However, if you have something else in mind, let me know.
Feel free to reply whenever you're not busy, I just wanted to ask you a question. If you remember that last time we talked, I showed you the page I made for Little Chino on the Villains Wiki. Anyways, my question is, would it be alright if I were to put external links from Dexter pages i've made on the Villains Wiki on the character pages here?
The purpose of including external links is to give readers access to more information that is not included here. Since the pages on the Villains Wiki are basically copied from here, they provide no new information for readers, so to link to them is pointless.
Hey there. I seem to remember having a conversation about "Dark Passenger" and what it is, but I don't remember it well and can't find it to review it.
Anyway, I'm watching it through again, and (maybe you know all this already) just found the first mention of it. At the beginning of Season One Episode 11, Dexter recalls his buried memory of seeing his mother in the shipping container and says it's been with him all the time, his dark passenger.
Our page says it's his urge to kill, but he says it's a memory. I assume the concept evolves as the show progresses, but I don't remember it well enough. That's why I'm rewatching it again. That and because it's awesome! :)
Happy to hear that you are again watching Dexter! I’ve lost count. It is awesome!
As for the Dark Passenger, the “urge” or “need” to kill (along with similar terms) are used throughout the show, with “need” being the most common. (Perhaps we should use that word.) Here are a few explicit or implied examples of his need / urge to kill. I welcome any feedback. :)
When Harry takes teenage Dexter hunting, he tells him to stab a deer and says, “For now, this is how we’ll control the urges you feel and channel them.”
After Harry prevents teenage Dexter from killing Joshua, Dexter says he still wants to kill him and wants to know when it will go away.
While he's bowling, Dexter thinks to himself, “I really need to kill somebody.”
In the same episode, teenage Dexter and Harry are at a shooting range. When Harry tells Dexter he has to postpone their boar hunt, Dexter has a meltdown, claiming he can’t wait and really needs this.
“An Inconvenient Lie”
In a diner, Lila describes what it feels like to have a rising dark need, and Dexter is freaked out.
“Dex, Lies, and Videotape”
Dexter has Ken Olson on a kill table. Dexter feels that he’s in “recovery,” and tells Olson that he doesn’t feel the need that comes from within that always drives him to the table.
“Sunshine and Frosty Swirl”
Dexter tells Debra that Harry found him sitting in his mother’s blood and understood why he had these urges. He says he has a need deep inside him that he calls his Dark Passenger.
Debra reads an article written by Lundy that claims serial killers have an addiction; Dexter tells her it’s not untrue. (Back in Season Two, he also referred to his need to kill as an addition.) Debra thinks that if Dexter can channel his urges, he can control them.
While staying at her house, Dexter imagines a conversation with Harry, who says he was correct in channeling Dexter’s urges, not suppressing them.
During dinner with Debra, Dexter describes in detail what his need to kill feels like.
“Buck the System”
Because Dexter hasn't been able to kill for a time, he imagines himself slicing the throat of a postal worker and stabbing Masuka in the throat.
He tells Debra that if he doesn’t control his need to kill, it will control him. He says he can only control it by channeling it - not suppressing it. He reminds her that when he had the urge to kill Louis Greene, he called her.
“The Dark... Whatever”
With murder on his mind, Dexter tells Hannah that his Dark Passenger wants him to be some place else. She finds it ridiculous when told that’s his name for his need to kill. He describes it as a thing living inside him, saying he has to kill. She laughs and says it’s only him, and he has a choice. He thinks his compulsion can’t be explained any other way.
It’s revealed that Dexter mentioned the Dark Passenger for the first time at age twelve to Harry. This was after Harry remarked, "It got into you too early in the shipping container." Young Dexter thought it meant an entity controlled him, but Harry was referring to his trauma.
So the dark passenger does evolve from a memory to this need. I figured it did, I just couldn't remember the details. (It sucks getting old.)
I think I remember discussing whether we needed pages for Laura Moser (Dark Passenger) and Brian Moser (Dark Passenger) and things like that. Also whether they were separate entities or the same, and whether they were supernatural or just part of Dexter's head. Maybe we resolved all that stuff back then.
The final shot of Dexter staring into the camera creeps me out. There is no voiceover from Dexter as one might expect (e.g. "This is my new life," or "Never leave behind traces of a stage suicide"), so are we left to ponder, is Dexter, the persona we knew for eight seasons dead, or has he been laying dormant for five years, and starting to re-emerge?
Will there be a season 9? Will Dexter return to Miami and be once again greeted by the aberation of Harry ("Welcome home, son.") or possibly Doakes ("Surprise, motherfucker!")?
Will he track down Harrison? Will the boy forgive him?
There are too many questions that need to be answered and hopefully if there is a season 9 they will not be all answered in one episode or raised and not answered.
There are indeed unanswered questions, and fans can imagine any ending they wish. It's extremely unlikely there will ever be a Season 9. However, we can hope for a spin-off or something like El Camino following Breaking Bad. I won't hold my breath. :)
If there is a spin-off it should be a prequel in the style of Better Call Saul, which tells the stories of Dexter's victims (Miguel Prado, Lila West, et al) or the innocent victims (e.g. Stanley Tucci, the Barrel Girls) or his colleagues (Doakes, Maria) before the pivotal moments in DEXTER.
It would also be interesting to find out what happened to characters after their encounters with Dexter and his world (e.g. Sonya, why did she leave Dexter's employment or Rita's mother, Gail, how did she take her daughter's death and why did she not attend the funeral).
Synopsis and summary mean the exact same thing (as do plot, storyline, etc.). I think it's confusing to have two sections with equivalent titles, and would rather just incorporate the small one into the introductory section. What do you think?
I've always been a little confused by those terms. My purpose was to have a small intro and then a larger summary. How can I achieve this? If you can edit one so I can see what you prefer, it would be great.
In Season Six I just took out the Synopsis header, for example, and the introduction just flows into the brief summary. It may not be ideal, but I don't think it's jarring, and I think it's less confusing.
To answer your question, I’ve checked out many Wikis that I think will be interesting. List of Deaths is one of them. When I added the “Users” tag to your page, I noticed it’s one of your favorites. Then I found the Dexter page you were working on...just one of many pages you’ve created or contributed to.
Also, I don’t know how or when Norma Batista died, but she is mentioned in “A Horse of a Different Color.” When Angel refuses to let Quinn eat in his Firebird, he says that he named his car after his mother, Norma. Not much, I know.
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I know the Episode 301: Our Father credits list them as "Kid #1", etc. but the "#" has a special meaning in wikis. It links to a section of the page like this Episode 301: Our Father#Gallery. So "Kid #1" will try to link to section "1" of the page "Kid". I would suggest calling the page "Kid number 1" or "Kid No. 1" or whatever else you think (I have no preference) but using the pipe to make it display like the credits show: [[Kid number 1|Kid #1]]
I hope I've explained sufficiently, but I can elaborate more if necessary. :)
While we’re on the subject of actor credits, I have a couple of questions, please. There are quite a few actors who are credited the same, such as “Cop,” “Waiter,” “Waitress," etc. and they need to be differentiated in order for them to have their own pages. I have been trying to do this (probably not correctly). Should the more specific name always be separated with a pipe on the episode page, like with the kids? Also, for the few uncredited actors who did not appear in an episode (perhaps their names were added prematurely to an IMDb list, or their scene was cut), do they stay?
Good questions! There is no one correct way to differentiate like that. Whatever works without being too clumsy is generally fine. Many wikis tend to use parentheses and a location or episode name, and I've seen you do some of that. It works for me.
I guess the pipe isn't really necessary, but I think it looks better on the episode page to have it display as it is credited, even if we can't name the page that because of a technicality. What do you think?
I hadn't even noticed folks being credited who did not appear. I wonder if deleted scenes are available somewhere like on DVD. What about if we leave them on the page, but cross them out? For instance
Thanks! I will use the pipe as much as I can while using a more specific name or description (I’m not very imaginative. haha). I don’t think there are many uncredited actors who didn’t appear, however, I have looked for a few of them frame by frame, to no avail. I’m not sure how to verify it. I’ll leave them on, as you suggest. Since I want to get as many actor pages up as possible, I’ll attempt the easier ones first. There are some actors I have passed over for now because I couldn’t find a suitable photo. (That's why I have used screen shots in some instances.) I appreciate your help and suggestions!